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scouse_mouse Articulating
Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Odometer: 653 Location: In the North of Wales by the sea
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:59 pm Post subject: consequences of lifting landies
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I`ve heard that sometimes when you lift landys , ie disco`s , that you may or may not have to put on castor corrected front arm and cranked rears , now I have noticed that since I went onto 16 inch rims with larger tyres at about 45 -60 I get what I can only describe as a rotational humming noise , not a knock , I `ve checked the doughnut , does this mean i may have to put the above mentioned arms on ? , it`s on a 2 " lift with tyres larger than 31.10.50`s ( cannot be bothered to go out in cold to look !!) sensible answers only on a post card
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ebbadger Articulating
Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Odometer: 559 Location: Twickenham , Middlesex
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:11 pm Post subject:
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2" lift will be okay and tyres have no effect on drivetrain as far as a lift goes because they dont alter the axle to drivetrain angles however wider tyres and a greater circumferance may add extra stress on components.
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nicks90 Mud Obsessed
Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Odometer: 2181
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:13 pm Post subject:
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Quote: | 45 -60 I get what I can only describe as a rotational humming noise |
what tyres?
My mud terrains make a right hum noise at certain speeds. nothing to do with my lift or tyre size, jsut the tread pattern.
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scouse_mouse Articulating
Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Odometer: 653 Location: In the North of Wales by the sea
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:19 pm Post subject:
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don`t think its tyre noise , it`s just that some people say with a lift sometimes you have to put castor corrected on the front , just wondering if the mods now need these on
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andyb66 Just got MTs
Joined: 18 Jun 2004 Odometer: 236 Location: Ferndown, near Bournemouth
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:26 pm Post subject:
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You can drive without any castor correction on the front, I have since install because I got used to the steering feel.
It can be worst on some LRs, but I think that maybe down to build tolerances of the motor in the first place
I would use castor correcting swivels or have the axle casing re-jigged as castor correcting arms and bushes bring their own problems.
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paulmurray Articulating
Joined: 01 Apr 2005 Odometer: 578 Location: northern ireland
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:22 pm Post subject:
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had a similar noise problem when i lifted my 110 turned out to be the rear prop. there was no play in any of the joints but they had obviously worn to a set arc of movement. new hardy spicers sorted it. hope this helps
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DanWhite Gate Opener
Joined: 28 Dec 2009 Odometer: 16 Location: Herefordshire
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:52 pm Post subject:
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paulmurray wrote: | had a similar noise problem when i lifted my 110 turned out to be the rear prop. there was no play in any of the joints but they had obviously worn to a set arc of movement. new hardy spicers sorted it. hope this helps |
same with mine, didn't help that the wheel bearings were also going out.
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burko_uk Off-Road Guru
Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Odometer: 1017
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:19 pm Post subject:
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If all you have done is change the tyres then there is no need to do anything to the sspension components such as trailing arms or panhard rods or radius arms. These are only needed (and even then it's questionable) to correct the change in the location relative to the chassis due to longer springs. You need to look at wheel bearings or propshafts for signs of wear, or accept that it may just be the tyre noise (until something goes bang - then you know what's worn ).
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scouse_mouse Articulating
Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Odometer: 653 Location: In the North of Wales by the sea
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:14 pm Post subject:
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Was thinking of getting rid of the standard disco rear prop and doughnut thinggy , what do I replace it with though , is it a rrc ? if so are there different ones ?
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crazymac Mud Obsessed
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Odometer: 2389 Location: Pembrokeshire, West Wales
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:47 am Post subject:
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scouse_mouse wrote: | Was thinking of getting rid of the standard disco rear prop and doughnut thinggy , what do I replace it with though , is it a rrc ? if so are there different ones ? |
All you need is the diff flange, spacer and rear prop from a 200TDi.
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scouse_mouse Articulating
Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Odometer: 653 Location: In the North of Wales by the sea
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:11 am Post subject:
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Mr mac , you are a true gentleman
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thebiglad Guest
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:10 pm Post subject:
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You asked for consequences of lifting your Landy.
A bloke was recently sent to jail for 4 yrs after an accident whilst driving a lifted 110.
The Police "expert" stated that in his opinion the change in suspension had adversely affected the handling of the vehicle to the extent that it was a prime cause of the accident in which a child was killed.
He was sent to jail because he had modified his vehicle without the neccesary training and expertise.
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teamidris Mud Obsessed
Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Odometer: 3372 Location: Staffordshire UK
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:16 pm Post subject:
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It wasn't the lift, it was the method of modification, which involved changes other than spring length or radious arm changes. (Assuming we are talking about the case that gets threads locked or removed).
But any modification may leave you with a difficult explanation in court if things go bad Depends what happens and why............
Best advice I can give is; build a kickass off roader, then trailer it to events and play days. Its a lot more fun, and a lot less worry
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shortbaldcraig Gate Opener
Joined: 23 Dec 2009 Odometer: 4 Location: ESSEX
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:36 pm Post subject:
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If you have lifted the car keep an eye on your rear doughnut, it will wear out quickly due to the change in angle between the propshaft and diff, I had the same problem on my Disco once I lifted it.[/u]
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