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97 pat 90
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:10 pm    Post subject: budget lift Reply with quote

hello difflockers
iv bought a set of 35,s for my land rover 90 and lookin for a budget lift il be doin a bit of towing .what would be the best spring and shock set up.Mail order 4x4 do a 2"heavy duty lift with bearmach blue springs and pro comp shocks.Has anyone used this lift kit and what did u think of it
thanks for your help
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, others might comment on the lift kit,
I would advise that you give the Blue springs a miss tho.

You dont say what powers your 90?
Or the type of tyres, are they Mud tyres?
Or what weight you are going to be towing, are you going to use a drop plate to match the trailer hitch?

I imagine you are going to be very disapointed with the gearing that results from fitting 35" tyres.
It wouldnt be my choice of tyre size for on road towing of any great weight.
george

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pro-comp shocks are good, and have a lifetime warranty.

The bearmach springs are far too stiff for offroad and you end up bouncing around a lot. They're ok when they are used for a bit and have a bit of give; but then you don't have the 2" any more!!!

However, if towing they will keep some stability what with having the 2" lift.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As George said, I have 33s and find towing a bit of a chore. With 35s, your gearing will be totally shot unless you change Xfer boxes etc
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my tyres meashure 32 inches and the gearing is very high, my last tyres were 29 inches, the truck feels a lot more slugish and i now have to use first gear to pull away constantly,thankfully i never tow anything. god help you with 35's.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DD wrote:
As George said, I have 33s and find towing a bit of a chore. With 35s, your gearing will be totally shot unless you change Xfer boxes etc


to be honest after towing lwb trooper ( which head had blown) and 3.5 ton lgv ( some tight git forgot to refill the tank iearlier in the nite) on the road seems fine to me apart from steep hill start offs

but it does put extra wear and tear on the drivetrain
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David, the reason i asked what engine he will tow with.

I have 275+BHP & an auto,
& 32" tyres are right for me with around 3 tonnes on.
35" would be a no no for my motor.
george


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the replies
its a 300 tdi and has a dropper plate for the tow ball
i used to tow with 265/75r16 insa turbo special tracks bought these 35,s they are mastercraft courser mt .
thanks for help and a great site for a newbie like me
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

j44gtw wrote:
David, the reason i asked what engine he will tow with.

I have 275+BHP & an auto,
& 32" tyres are right for me with around 3 tonnes on.
35" would be a no no for my motor.
george


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and im going to 36.5s and still tow after Embarassed

( i really should start looking for the hd rollling chassis, remove the bits i need and rebody the swb with the rest Twisted Evil )
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you got a licence to tow?

I wasnt sure how old you were.
Some how thought you were early 20's. sorry Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

97 pat 90 wrote:
thanks for the replies
its a 300 tdi and has a dropper plate for the tow ball
i used to tow with 265/75r16 insa turbo special tracks bought these 35,s they are mastercraft courser mt .
thanks for help and a great site for a newbie like me


mite be worth seeing if the 300 tdi is running sweat . simple things can help a to reduce stress and load on the engine
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

j44gtw wrote:
Have you got a licence to tow?

I wasnt sure how old you were.
Some how thought you were early 20's. sorry Embarassed
george



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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used to tow with 265/75r16 insa turbo special tracks bought these 35,s they are mastercraft courser mt


265/75's arent much over 30 inches 31 max so your 35's are going to be a big step up, you may have to consider using the low box to pull off with your tdi if your going to be towing heavy loads.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

david p wrote:
j44gtw wrote:
Have you got a licence to tow?

I wasnt sure how old you were.
Some how thought you were early 20's. sorry Embarassed
george



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older getting nearer to 30


yeh but did you pass your test before 97?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a 300tdi wouldnt pull the skin off a rice pudding on standard size tyres never mind 35,s Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

herbert wrote:
a 300tdi wouldnt pull the skin off a rice pudding on standard size tyres never mind 35,s Shocked

dont know what sort of 300 tdi you have been driving i see your good at your smart comments herbert i dont want to know about them .
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

97 pat 90 wrote:
herbert wrote:
a 300tdi wouldnt pull the skin off a rice pudding on standard size tyres never mind 35,s Shocked

dont know what sort of 300 tdi you have been driving i see your good at your smart comments herbert i dont want to know about them .


it wasnt a smart comment....last time i had the misfortune of towing my offroad disco with a 300tdi....and it was a good one....i have had over 20 of them so i,v driven the slow ones and the not so slow Rolling Eyes it was on its knees.....as i said a 300tdi in standard form wouldnt pull the skin off a rice pudding Laughing

i hope i havent hurt your feelings Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my 300tdi 90 in standard form pulled my mates 90 no bother at all when his gearbox went.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wot /\/\/\ said

mine copes quite happily with 2tonne on the trailer. Ok, got a bit of stick stirring to do on hills and it wont pull as fast as a nice tdv8 rangie... but what do you expect?

I think thats the thing - expectation.
if you are happy with slow and steady and let it plod along then you will be fine (although i do think 35" on standard xfer box will irritate you and be bad idea)
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't forget most manufacturers do offroad and heavy duty spring rates depending what your using it for the most. It's a compromise.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the forum Pat. Where abouts in Ireland are you? I can recommend the Terra Firma kit available from Ian at the 4X4 Store in Newtownards
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello im from mayo.looks like terrafirma kit have heard good comments on their stuff
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He does mail order you can get him on 00 44 28 9182 7300. Tell him I sent you and you might get a bit of discount Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im thinking going to terrafirma ****.5 shocks or possibly rough county ones.

deffo not pro comp , ive been reading bad stuff lately Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had the same set of Procomps on the lightweight for the past 5 or 6 years with no problem.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the reason people snap or break pro comps is usualy down to not fitting them properly.

because there cheap they tend to be a brand that every idiot goes for, they get longer travel shocks and +2 droppers or whatever but dont extend their bump stops so at articulation they bottom out and break.

the more expensive brands dont break so often because the people who tend to buy them actualy know what they are doing through experience or listening to people who know what there going on about.

procomp offer a lifetime waranty on all faulty products, and they do honour it.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the ES9000's had internal bump stops Confused I removed the bump stops and check straps from my lightweight to get extra articulation.




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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IIRC the internal bumstop on the es9000 is only for extension. The procomp damper failures I have seen though did not appear to be due to over extension or compression. The common factor with all of them was stiff polyurethane bushes clamped up tight, which resisted the rotation of the joint too much causing excessive bending stresses around the welds. The es9000s on one of my range rovers never gave me any trouble and they were regularly at full extension as they were standard length and used with lift springs.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i reused the standard rubber shock bushes for that very reason when i fitted procomp es9000 to my 90 6 years ago.
Not broken a single shock and they still work ok.

The internal bumpstop is extension only. If you over compress them - eg fully closed - you will damage them. I dont know of any normal oil or gas shock that has a compression bumpstop built in. thats why your motor has bumpstops and people upgrade to hydraulic bumps.....
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

david p wrote:
Im thinking going to terrafirma ****.5 shocks or possibly rough county ones.

deffo not pro comp , ive been reading bad stuff lately Crying or Very sad


All Pro Comp failures I have seen are due to incorrect fitting.

Terrafirma are a cheap version of OME; not that that is a bad thing, but I'd personally go OME over Terrafirma.

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