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naughtyboy Articulating
Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Odometer: 966 Location: west yorks
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:42 am Post subject: trailer
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my mate wants back half of my old 110 chaasis to make overland trailer from.
can he do this or will he be breaking any laws?
cheers
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trailer guy Articulating
Joined: 19 Feb 2009 Odometer: 787 Location: Hampshire
1994 Land Rover 110
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:27 am Post subject:
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the laws in the uk are both bland and convoluted at the same time! There's all sorts of laws governing weights, sizes, brakes, chassis plates etc. I've never come across any telling you what you can, or cannot make a chassis out of.
There's no reason he couldn't use the 110 chassis, it's certainly strong enough, he just needs to make sure he complies with everything else.
make sure he does a bit of research!
NB. I once had a customer come in to buy some parts for the trailer he'd just made, and I use 'trailer' in the loosest sense of the word, as he'd made it by screwing some independent suspension units directly to a wooden pallet and used a bit of 2"x2" timber for the drawbar....
until the uk finally bring in some decent parameters and an 'MOT' for trailers, there's bugg*r all I can do about these poor mis-guided fools...
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paul_c Off-Road Guru
Joined: 17 May 2009 Odometer: 1378
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:43 pm Post subject:
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The main issue will be the brakes. Trailers have auto reversing overrun brakes. They work (when reversing) by the push being beyond the range of normal braking, and the shoes do something funny within the drums and self-release. There's no issue in adapting something to make it brake on overrun but the autoreverse capability will be tricky to engineer in. Older trailers can have a manual 'brakes off' lock for reversing, ie a pin or some other kind of piece of metal that prevents the brake bit being pushed by the hitch to apply, so it can be reversed. But after a certain year or so, you're not allowed manual reversing and it needs to be auto reversing. Its obviously a case of Euro regulations for the sake of it rather than any common sense reason, but there you go.
Also, there might (not sure) be a requirement to have a plate on the trailer with unladed and max laden weights, but I'm not too sure on that one. As the "manufacturer" of it, you can make your own plate though.
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paul_c Off-Road Guru
Joined: 17 May 2009 Odometer: 1378
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:51 pm Post subject:
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Trailer sizes are reasonably well defined. For being towed by anything under 3.5 ton:
length: 23ft (7m) excluding drawbar*
width: 7ft 6inch (2.3m)
* length can be exceeded if the trailer is specially constructed to carry an indivisible load, eg glider trailers.
(For GVW if towcar exceeding 3.5 tons, max length = 12m and max width = 2.55m
The load can overhang the trailer by 1 foot (width) each side and 1 metre (length to the rear), 1-2m rearwards (projection clearly visible), 2m-3.05m rearwards (end marker boards). Any overhang exceeding these can be done but you need attendant, police notification, etc as an abnormal load.
So for a car based trailer, you'll be nowhere near the limits.
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trailer guy Articulating
Joined: 19 Feb 2009 Odometer: 787 Location: Hampshire
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:08 pm Post subject:
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the national trailer and towing assoc. have got quite an explanatory site:
http://www.ntta.co.uk/
or you could search the hundreds of trailer/towing threads on here!
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