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john850t5r Just got MTs
Joined: 11 Feb 2008 Odometer: 320 Location: Edinburgh / Donegal
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:19 am Post subject: Can you weld a 4 pin Diff?
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Dont laugh or shout, its just a curious question, but would it be possible to weld a salisbury diff , just like welding a normal diff? Or is it not possible.
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terence Guest
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:20 am Post subject:
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John...........................
you must like working on the car in wet fields
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deerstalker Gate Opener
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:57 am Post subject: welded diff
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yes just weld it up and hope but you can with good results
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Muddy_Porcupine Just got MTs
Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Odometer: 107 Location: West of Edinburgh
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:07 pm Post subject:
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John-o, why the hell do you want to use welded diffs, its a crap idea..........and you know it..........
I agree with terry!!
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john850t5r Just got MTs
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:30 pm Post subject: re
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Ahh i knew id get shouted at! Still not sure if this is possible?? Does the inside look like a regular diff? Weld up the planet gears and it will still work?
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james_hillerby Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:26 pm Post subject:
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A welded 2 pin should be well strong enough but my rover 4pin is the same design as a 2 pin but with a machined 2 part center and 4 pins instead of 2......
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xamtex Difflock Royalty
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:12 pm Post subject:
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you can weld a 4 pin diff...just the same as any other diff...budget locker
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john850t5r Just got MTs
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:19 pm Post subject: re
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Well ive plans to build a challenge truck instead of using my daily driver! So a welded 4 pin salisbury axle might be the way forward! Cheap and strong
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teamidris Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject:
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better fit fiddle brakes then, as with a welded diff you will have the turning circle of the QE2.
I seem to be keeping up with the locker boys on points with open 4 pin diffs.
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TheBigPurpleOne Off-Road Guru
Joined: 06 Oct 2008 Odometer: 1692 Location: Macclesfield
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:15 pm Post subject:
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fiddle brakes.... welded diff... somethings gotta give...
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Nathaniel Difflock Royalty
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:38 pm Post subject:
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Orangev8 wrote: | better fit fiddle brakes then, as with a welded diff you will have the turning circle of the QE2. |
Durr - welded diff - fiddlebrakes no worky.
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john850t5r Just got MTs
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:47 pm Post subject:
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NRS91 wrote: | fiddle brakes.... welded diff... somethings gotta give... |
If im doing it, it will be a salisbury axle, bigger shafts etc.
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TheBigPurpleOne Off-Road Guru
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:02 pm Post subject:
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my comment was meant to imply nathanials sentiments...
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:12 pm Post subject:
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Nathaniel wrote: | Orangev8 wrote: | better fit fiddle brakes then, as with a welded diff you will have the turning circle of the QE2. |
Durr - welded diff - fiddlebrakes no worky. |
Welded front diff + fiddle brakes at rear!!!!!! or am I missing something here.
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TheBigPurpleOne Off-Road Guru
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:27 pm Post subject:
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salisbury is generally the rear axle as salisbury front axles are rare
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Orangev8 Guest
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:39 pm Post subject:
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forgot about the Salisbury bit
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Nathaniel Difflock Royalty
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:03 pm Post subject:
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You could fit fiddle brakes to the front.
Would be a good test for the CV's if nothing else.
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TheBigPurpleOne Off-Road Guru
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:15 pm Post subject:
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that would sure get it sliding
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Orangev8 Guest
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:28 pm Post subject:
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Fiddles on the front cropped up in conversation recently and my thoughts were that you would carry on in a straight ish line
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TheBigPurpleOne Off-Road Guru
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:32 pm Post subject:
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ive seen them working in a vid
they made the car pivot on the front wheel which lead to a slide
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bertie_bas205 Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:12 am Post subject:
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Muddy_Porcupine wrote: | John-o, why the hell do you want to use welded diffs, its a crap idea..........and you know it..........
I agree with terry!! |
Why's it a crap idea?
Explain????????????????????????????
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teamidris Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:35 am Post subject:
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Diff locked only helps when one wheel has a lot less traction, and thats not that often. But stops you making turns. So an obstacle that could have been negotiated with carefull steering may now be impossible. Even the centre diff locked on a rangy adds a few feet of turning circle.
Unless you fit mis-matched diffs....................RRC ratio in fornt, Old landy ration in rear so the front wheels turn faster.
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TheBigPurpleOne Off-Road Guru
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:44 am Post subject:
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thats what my series has... seems to pull and steer in better than standard
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