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Can you weld a 4 pin Diff?

 
 
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john850t5r
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:19 am    Post subject: Can you weld a 4 pin Diff? Reply with quote

Dont laugh or shout, its just a curious question, but would it be possible to weld a salisbury diff , just like welding a normal diff? Or is it not possible.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John........................... Shocked



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:57 am    Post subject: welded diff Reply with quote

yes just weld it up and hope but you can with good results
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John-o, why the hell do you want to use welded diffs, its a crap idea..........and you know it..........

I agree with terry!!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:30 pm    Post subject: re Reply with quote

Ahh i knew id get shouted at! Still not sure if this is possible?? Does the inside look like a regular diff? Weld up the planet gears and it will still work?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A welded 2 pin should be well strong enough but my rover 4pin is the same design as a 2 pin but with a machined 2 part center and 4 pins instead of 2......
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can weld a 4 pin diff...just the same as any other diff...budget locker Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:19 pm    Post subject: re Reply with quote

Well ive plans to build a challenge truck instead of using my daily driver! So a welded 4 pin salisbury axle might be the way forward! Cheap and strong
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheaper to peg and weld a 2 pinion Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

better fit fiddle brakes then, as with a welded diff you will have the turning circle of the QE2.

I seem to be keeping up with the locker boys on points with open 4 pin diffs.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fiddle brakes.... welded diff... somethings gotta give...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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better fit fiddle brakes then, as with a welded diff you will have the turning circle of the QE2.


Durr - welded diff - fiddlebrakes no worky.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NRS91 wrote:
fiddle brakes.... welded diff... somethings gotta give...


If im doing it, it will be a salisbury axle, bigger shafts etc.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my comment was meant to imply nathanials sentiments...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nathaniel wrote:
Orangev8 wrote:
better fit fiddle brakes then, as with a welded diff you will have the turning circle of the QE2.


Durr - welded diff - fiddlebrakes no worky.


Welded front diff + fiddle brakes at rear!!!!!! or am I missing something here.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

salisbury is generally the rear axle as salisbury front axles are rare
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy forgot about the Salisbury bit
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could fit fiddle brakes to the front.

Would be a good test for the CV's if nothing else.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that would sure get it sliding Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fiddles on the front cropped up in conversation recently and my thoughts were that you would carry on in a straight ish line
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive seen them working in a vid
they made the car pivot on the front wheel which lead to a slide

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muddy_Porcupine wrote:
John-o, why the hell do you want to use welded diffs, its a crap idea..........and you know it..........

I agree with terry!!



Why's it a crap idea?

Explain????????????????????????????


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diff locked only helps when one wheel has a lot less traction, and thats not that often. But stops you making turns. So an obstacle that could have been negotiated with carefull steering may now be impossible. Even the centre diff locked on a rangy adds a few feet of turning circle.

Unless you fit mis-matched diffs....................RRC ratio in fornt, Old landy ration in rear so the front wheels turn faster.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats what my series has... seems to pull and steer in better than standard
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