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NNMan Just got MTs
Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Odometer: 368 Location: Fort William, Scotland
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:44 pm Post subject: Questions on buying a 110
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I am considering buying a 110 pickup hich capacity. It. will be my first LR
Reason I am thinking of buying this vehicle is I want a work horse that can Go any where. At the mo I have a moddified Nissan Navara that is more capable than people give credit for but I am fed up of IFS/ steering problems.
So Firstly any pointers on what to look out for?
Do any vehicles come with lockers?
What size of tyres can I fit before having to ajust gearing?
Can lifted vehicles still take a load in the back and what load are they rated to carry?
Are the rumers of LR being unreliable true?
Are drive trains different in diesels to V8 petrols?
Are there different axels avalible?
Thanks for your help, No dout I will have more questions!
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tom_g Just got MTs
Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Odometer: 195 Location: Carmarthenshire
1988 Land Rover 110
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:13 pm Post subject:
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My first landy was a 110 stationwagon, and I havnt looked back.
The main thing to look for is bulkhead and chassis rust, check the bulkhead from inside as well as from under the bonnet.
All defender type LRs come with a center difflock, from and rear would only be fitted by previous owners.
I believe 235/85 r16 is the biggest tyre you can fit without modification, im running this size at the minute.
As for landies being unreliable..... my 110 has always managed to get me home, even with some quite spectacular problems, lots of these can be fixed at the roadside with a small tool kit. OTOH the lightweight has been nothing but trouble.
I think the deciding factor on reliability is maintenance.
Yes the V8 and diesel gearboxes are different, if buying a V8 do check 5th gear for excessive noise, it seems to be a common fault from around 100,000 miles, but bear in mind that LR gearboxes are naturaly noisy! Also be aware that V8s are thirsty (15mpg is good) and will be getting tired after 120,000 miles.
hope this helps,
Tom.
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NNMan Just got MTs
Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Odometer: 368 Location: Fort William, Scotland
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:26 pm Post subject:
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Thanks, I will be looking to lift it, there is one I am looking at has 37" tyres.
Just wondered as may convert to V8 at some time.
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16 RN 49 Off-Road Guru
Joined: 26 May 2006 Odometer: 1059 Location: North Notts
2001 Land Rover Defender
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:04 am Post subject:
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I can't imagine the load rating has changed on the Hi-Cap since it's introduction (in the '80s?) so check out what it says for the '07MY on the Land Rover website. You might not need a lift in the rear when it's empty, my 110 van sits a good inch or two higher at the back unless I load it up. I'm not sure if the load rating would change with a lift.
As for tyre sizes, I'm not sure how big you can go before needing wheel arch adjustment, you can fit wider than the 235s in the 265/75 R16, though you will have to adjust the steering stops so as not to foul the radius arms. I'm sure you can fit bigger tyres without modification, try searching the Wheels and Tyres forum. As for needing to adjust gearing, I think you'd have to have some very tall tyres before considering a 1.6 High ratio (up from 1.4) or changing the Diff ratio (to affect High and Low).
Are Land Rovers unreliable? That question does tend to get things heated. There are several specific things that could have been designed better. Better rust proofing on the bulkhead, staying with galvanised cappings, better coolant design on the 300TDi etc. But as was said, proper maintenance, not ignoring warning signs and an understanding of the vehicle will give one very reliable Land Rover. Fixing on the road side is possible, I did so recently when the fan-belt auto-tensioner destroyed itself. Took 10mins and one spanner to fit a new one and a new belt. They do tend to warn you in advance before things go Apex-Over-Base.
Axles are pretty much the same on all 90s, 110s and Defenders. Differences include Salisbury rear diffs on 110s (the nose length is too long for the 90), 10 spline / 24 spline shafts and 2 pin / 4 pin diffs have all been used. I'm not sure in what year they changed them around. I do believe later TD5s moved away from a Salisbury rear, but I'm not sure when. Aftermarket strengthened halfshafts can be bought.
One other thing I'll mention is to consider a 110 truck-cab or hard-top over a Hi-Cap (unless you really do need the load rating, size of a Hi-cap). Truck-cabs are rarer but they and hard-tops can quite easily be converted from one to another or even to a full Soft-Top. I struggled to find a 300TDi Truck-Cab to convert to a full Soft-Top, so I bought a Hard-Top instead and converted that.
HTH
Pete
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NNMan Just got MTs
Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Odometer: 368 Location: Fort William, Scotland
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:15 am Post subject:
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Thanks Pete,
I do fancy a high capacity for the load space but if an ordinary pick up comes along or hard top comes along at the right price then I will be quite happy. One very big reason for getting a Defender is because they can easily be altered to suit use.
One question I will ask when I get one is, could anyone give me a run through of 'proper maintenance'?
As for tyres, I would be hoping to fit somthing like 35" plus tyres.
This along the lines of what I am after, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem...item=230328625951
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TheBigPurpleOne Off-Road Guru
Joined: 06 Oct 2008 Odometer: 1692 Location: Macclesfield
1987 Land Rover 90 TD
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:50 pm Post subject:
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i think my td5 110 van has a salisbury rear axle (its ex-mod) and surely theyd put one in the hi-cap?
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deerstalker Gate Opener
Joined: 27 May 2007 Odometer: 16 Location: LINCOLNSHIRE
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:26 pm Post subject: hi cap tyres
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With your Hicap 35 inch tyres would be ok if you had a 2 inch lift -- i would not recommend any more than 2 inch as this throws your steering out and becomes either dangerous or expensive to correct
If you lift it with different springs be very careful as there is some real rubbish out there especially if you want to work it hard.
The best lift is 2 inch blocks under the spring plates, this means you are still using Land Rover genuine springs, there is no better made
you will only need some extended brake hoses and 2 x rear shocks plus 2 inch
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NNMan Just got MTs
Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Odometer: 368 Location: Fort William, Scotland
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject:
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Thanks
Out of interest, what sort of cost to correct steering when lifted over 2"?
I am seeing a few around for sale now so building up a picture of what is a good price.
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16 RN 49 Off-Road Guru
Joined: 26 May 2006 Odometer: 1059 Location: North Notts
2001 Land Rover Defender
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:22 am Post subject:
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NNMan wrote: | I do fancy a high capacity for the load space but if an ordinary pick up comes along or hard top comes along at the right price then I will be quite happy. One very big reason for getting a Defender is because they can easily be altered to suit use. | Indeed! However I'm not sure how far a Hi-Cap can be modified. If the chassis is the same between Hi-Cap and Hard-Top / Truck-Cab then the rear tub can be swapped over to give more options, but a Hi-Cap tub on it's own is limited. Aftermarket cover on or off is about it. I can't think of anyway of attaching seat belts if you ever decided to take the cab roof off. Still, they are awesome and there were plenty around when I was looking.
Oooh, but you could make it look like Lara Croft's Land Rover!
NRS91 wrote: | i think my td5 110 van has a salisbury rear axle (its ex-mod) and surely theyd put one in the hi-cap? | Just had a look at yours in the 'Garage'. Looks almost identical to mine before I started pulling the doors, roof off etc. Well, except the engine. Did yours go through Special Vehicles or is it purely Civilian Spec? Mine did but the only difference between Civ Spec and mine is the addition of a bonnet mounted spare and rear NATO electrics (I think). Yet to trace the history of mine, but I believe it'SPAM Royal Navy.
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TheBigPurpleOne Off-Road Guru
Joined: 06 Oct 2008 Odometer: 1692 Location: Macclesfield
1987 Land Rover 90 TD
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:11 am Post subject:
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mines a special vehicles one
so far only noticed differences are the nas fog and reverse lamps and the military light hook up and the no passengers sign across the rear window which needs to be removed due to the newly fitted bench seats
i believe that for 2" lift and over youl need castor correcting hockey sticks (2/3 degrees) and cranked trailing arms
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deerstalker Gate Opener
Joined: 27 May 2007 Odometer: 16 Location: LINCOLNSHIRE
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:55 am Post subject:
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£200 + to correct castor plus bushes etc.
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