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Diesel Destroyer Mud Obsessed
Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Odometer: 6921 Location: Under the truck covered in EP90
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 6:10 pm Post subject: How to get road legal status?
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Ive just bought a single seater buggy E bay...
It looks like its been scratch built.
Id like to get it road legal...
Anyone know how?
Obviously I'll need:
Lights
Indicators
No wipers as no screen
Seat belt
Two mirrors
Mud guards
Brakes on each wheel
Hand brake
Anyone? please
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mick_d Articulating
Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Odometer: 941 Location: Rotherham, South Yorkshire
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mick_d Articulating
Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Odometer: 941 Location: Rotherham, South Yorkshire
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gawxo Mud Obsessed
Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Odometer: 3657 Location: wirral
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 6:52 pm Post subject:
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I have not got the full 750 mtr buggy track now but a smaller version , worth a try in the summer !! J P
We could try the quad track though !
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rhinoman Mud Obsessed
Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Odometer: 3277 Location: Brinkworth, Wilts
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject:
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Time to read the SVA manual.
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J. Guest
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:14 pm Post subject:
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Dont forget soon its to become IVA
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w3526602 Difflock Royalty
Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Odometer: 10758 Location: Glynneath, South Wales
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:26 am Post subject:
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Hi,
I suggest you get a copy of KIT CARS AND THE LAW published by Kit Car magazine. Send an Email to kitcarman@ntlworld.com ask how to do this. There is a phone number 0870 112 0896, but it sayd "faxback" ?????
Book is £10 including postage. But it is worth having id you proceed with your project. Also worth it if it prevents you spending abortive money. Also worth it if you are rebuilding a Landy, SVA or not.
602
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4x4rick Off-Road Guru
Joined: 06 Dec 2007 Odometer: 1900 Location: J25 M25
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:26 pm Post subject:
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PICS!
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Terranosaurus Articulating
Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Odometer: 949 Location: Bishop Auckland County Durham
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:34 pm Post subject: Re: How to get road legal status?
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Diesel Destroyer wrote: | Ive just bought a single seater buggy E bay...
It looks like its been scratch built.
Id like to get it road legal...
Anyone know how?
Obviously I'll need:
Lights
Indicators
No wipers as no screen
Seat belt
Two mirrors
Mud guards
Brakes on each wheel
Hand brake
Anyone? please |
Chassis number - if its not got one, stamp one yourelf with a suitable number.
Horn
A reverse gear - can be an issue with motorbike gearboxes, though add on reversing boxes are available
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J. Guest
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:04 am Post subject:
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you dont need reverse till the IVA comes into effect!
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AndyH aka Mad4x4 Off-Road Guru
Joined: 29 Oct 2002 Odometer: 1426 Location: St Cyrus (Scotland)
2012 Land Rover 101
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject:
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sharp edges will be the killer !
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Anthony BathMat Rushton Mud Obsessed
Joined: 05 Jul 2005 Odometer: 3749 Location: Wigan Near Manc
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 2:33 pm Post subject:
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pictures?
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smiffy Just got MTs
Joined: 18 Oct 2006 Odometer: 252 Location: Argyll,Scotland
1999 Suzuki Jimny
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:54 pm Post subject:
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E marked tyres. My mate just got his Zuk LTZ400 road legal. Had to get tyres all lighting etc including reflectors, horn,mirrors ,engine cut off,speedo etc
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w3526602 Difflock Royalty
Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Odometer: 10758 Location: Glynneath, South Wales
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 5:29 pm Post subject:
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Hi,
The SVA covers such nasties as sharp edges, position of seat belt mounts, design weights, position of mirrors, postion of lamps, and lots more. Shouldn't be too difficult if you know the rules. Get a book.
602
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Nathaniel Difflock Royalty
Joined: 13 May 2003 Odometer: 17901 Location: North, North Yorkshire
1979 Suzuki LJ
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:19 pm Post subject:
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Buy a scrap Fiat 126/or similar, stick the numberplates on it and get it MOT'd....
Thats what most buggy builders do....
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simonallen Off-Road Guru
Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Odometer: 1019 Location: In the s**t most of the time...
1997 Lada Niva
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:07 am Post subject:
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I'm not sure whether the sva man would have something to say about the position of your radiator? If a hose pops at that, your head's gonna be nice and toastie!!
good luck with it though, all it's mising is a metro turbo engine.....
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winchman Mud Obsessed
Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Odometer: 2757 Location: Village Near St.Helens Merseyside
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:58 am Post subject:
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Why not register it as an agriculteral vehicle?
Its far easier and I dont think you need SVA, should be free road tax aswell
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w3526602 Difflock Royalty
Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Odometer: 10758 Location: Glynneath, South Wales
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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:43 am Post subject:
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Hi,
Only a person employed in agriculture can drive an agricultutal vehicle. Most of us are not allowed to drive a farm tractor, although our licences says we can. There was a case years ago where a farmer got done for road tax. He was taking his daughter's pony to the local horse show, in a trailer behind his tractor. I suspect that if he had said he was taking it to the knackers yard, all would have been well. Meat = Agriculture.
There was also a case of the Unimog towing a 20 ton trailer full of potatoes. Only, the potatoes were not the product of his farm, he was trading in them. Also he was 28 miles from his farm, limit for ag. vehicle is (was?) 15 miles. The fine ran to several thousand pounds.
Other case law says that carrying furniture for a farm labourer's cottage is not "agriculture".
Be careful. Its easier to keep to the rules than bend them. Having said that, my Suzuki quad was registered as an Agricultural Vehicle. I was stopped once in 2000 miles.
602
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Just Sam Articulating
Joined: 04 Aug 2006 Odometer: 520
1989 Peugeot 205
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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:37 am Post subject:
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w3526602 wrote: | There was also a case of the Unimog towing a 20 ton trailer full of potatoes. Only, the potatoes were not the product of his farm, he was trading in them. Also he was 28 miles from his farm, limit for ag. vehicle is (was?) 15 miles. The fine ran to several thousand pounds.
Be careful. Its easier to keep to the rules than bend them. Having said that, my Suzuki quad was registered as an Agricultural Vehicle. I was stopped once in 2000 miles.
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Around here (Herefordshire - spud land) the laws around tractors/agri vehicles are blatantly ignored - for financial reasons mainly.
We have 16 year old lads driving air braked '50k' and faster tractors with 14 ton root trailers behind, a mate of mine grossed 38 Tons over a weighbridge with a wet load of spuds when he was 17.
We also have huge trailers, poorly serviced, and massively over weight back and forth all over the county.
Then we have Potato growers transporting the crop by tractor/trailer on red Diesel from the other side of the county. A friend of a friend ws lugging in the way just mentioined a few years ago - but from PEMBROKE to TENBURY WELLS! 2 trips a day.
On the other hand a local agri/engineering contractor got done for lugging stone and soil around with JCB Fastracs when they probably should have been registered as HGV's and definitely on white diesel.
That's anothe point altogether - should these massive tractor/trailer combinations have tachos and be registered as HGV's???
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Henry. Mud Obsessed
Joined: 03 Jul 2008 Odometer: 2825 Location: north wales
1992 Suzuki Samurai
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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 3:04 pm Post subject:
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As above, any tractor being used on the public highway for agricultural purposes are allowed to be on red Diesel, if they are not being used for agricultural purposes then they have to be on white.
Personally i hate fasttracks, they come flying down our road with a 13tonne hymac on the back, and would they stop it if a child ran out infront of them, would they ****!
Modern tractors all have a coupling on the back, that alow trailers to have haydralic trailer breaks.
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crazymac Mud Obsessed
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Odometer: 2389 Location: Pembrokeshire, West Wales
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:37 pm Post subject:
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We have a local guy that only has a tractor!!
He is not employed in agriculture (he's a council worker) and drives his tractor as a car, it is on white diesel, taxed and insured and used up to 20 miles away!
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w3526602 Difflock Royalty
Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Odometer: 10758 Location: Glynneath, South Wales
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:24 am Post subject:
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Hi,
Thats naughty. Only people engaged in agriculture, including contractors and forestry, are allowed to drive agricultural vehicles on the road. Its a road tax problem, not driving licence. Ag tractor tax is cheaper than a car tax.
It may be possible to register a tractor as a car........but what happens at MOT time?
Hmmmm. Pre-1960 commercials don't require tax or MOT, provided they weigh more than 1500kg. But don't all rush, 4x4 need to weigh a lot more.
I have often wondered how my local council can use small tractors to drag trailers round town, and how much road tax they pay.
602
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w3526602 Difflock Royalty
Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Odometer: 10758 Location: Glynneath, South Wales
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:24 am Post subject:
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Hi,
Thats naughty. Only people engaged in agriculture, including contractors and forestry, are allowed to drive agricultural vehicles on the road. Its a road tax problem, not driving licence. Ag tractor tax is cheaper than a car tax.
It may be possible to register a tractor as a car........but what happens at MOT time?
Hmmmm. Pre-1960 commercials don't require tax or MOT, provided they weigh more than 1500kg. But don't all rush, 4x4 need to weigh a lot more.
I have often wondered how my local council can use small tractors to drag trailers round town, and how much road tax they pay.
602
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