Bush Wires - Legal ?

mrman · Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject: Bush Wires - Legal ?

So

can we fit bush wires to our 4x4's?

I have seen them and personnaly I dont think they are a pedestrian safe item to have.

anyone know for sure?

Cheers

Dave

spoofer · Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:34 am Post subject:

it depends on the copper that pulls you
but on paper they are for OFF ROAD USE ONLY and you can get done for them if you get a copper thats had a bad day, most will tell you to remove them there and then and give you a warning

but i agree there not safe for the road cos if you hit some one with them they will take someone's arm ect off

Diesel Destroyer · Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:03 am Post subject:

There is something to do with the thickness of wire..

But yes.. Id agree illegal for road use..

Nobby · Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:32 am Post subject:

a copper told me that they are illegal to use on the road but isnt everything illegal these days

2776ian · Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:18 am Post subject:

I can't imagine that bush-wires can be legal, except off road by which I mean on private ground, eg: a farm/country estate.

"Off-road" does NOT mean a green lane, which is a byway and as such is a "road" (albeit an unmade road). As such the Constructions and Use regs will apply to a green lane just as if you were driving past a school on a housing estate.

Ian

terence · Guest

For what its worth , My 110 had them , it travelled all over europe, Cairo Cape town and Perth - Algeria and up / down uk and ireland

never had anybother with them.

now if my taillights werent working !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! see previous rant )

depends on who asks , but i fear in court the rule book would be produced and they are considered a hazard.

Easy to disconnect PIA i know but hey isnt evertyhting these days Laughing

sae70 · Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:27 pm Post subject:

I've read something about the legality of these on the net before Smile

From what I can remember they are legal but only if over a certain diameter Smile

Again only from memory I think the diameter needs to be >4.5mm Question

Dave from Bits4Vits is your man as it was one of his topics that I remember reading this information Very Happy

Anthony · Off-Road Guru Joined: 05 Mar 2007 Odometer: 1640

I very much doubt that they are legal, even if one could get away with it, I think that it is putting pedestrians or riders and horses at unacceptable further risk of serious and extensive injury or worse.

If their is a need for them on private land, why not attach them with quick release clips, so that they can be easily removed for road use.

spannerman69 · Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject:

i`m sure i read some were that they are illegal on the road , with the exception of camel trophy trucks which were built with them as standard equipment.

mrman · Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject:

hmm

I just think they are not required.

I don't think they look good.

I just wondered why people fit them?

To me they look dangerous, that's why I asked if they were legal.

but hey

if it does it for you.......good luck !

Dave

sae70 · Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:03 pm Post subject:

Mmmmmm............ Laughing

Seems there is alot of conflicting info around Rolling Eyes

Sounds like the World Wide Web to me Very Happy

Maybe this should be filed in sticky with;

Stick on number plates
'A' frames
Towing dollies

and. and Laughing

From what I can remember of what I read about them it was a quote taken directly from a police man who said that they were legal if over a certain diameter Smile

Still all hearsay though I guess Smile

sae70 · Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:23 pm Post subject:

I've had a quic search around Difflock to see what has been written on the subject in the past Smile

There was quite a bit Smile

Ignoreing the point about if they are legal or not I very much like what 'horsevad' wrote on the subject in April 2007

mrman · Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:49 pm Post subject:

goto bed !

you must be really bored.....

but

good find !

Whose to say he didnt make it all up?

sae70 · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:01 am Post subject:

I guess he could have Very Happy

Good night Smile

mmgemini · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:30 am Post subject:

They are legal on Camel vehicles.
How I don't know because Camel vehicles do,did not come from the factory. They left the factory to go to Special Vehicles.
So actually the bush wires are not as some people think "factory" fitted.

Nathaniel · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:47 am Post subject:

Why not make solid ones out of Tube?

3/4" or 1" Blue band pipe would be lovely.

Tie them into a rollcage above the screen and to the bullbars/bumper at the front.

XrHiNo · Guest

They idea behind them is to push tree branches up and over the top, why would anyone need to do that?

Most of the vehicles you see with these cables on have a row of cibies on the roof, which kinda defeats the object.

Let Luce · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:19 pm Post subject:

what someone said up there about the diameter makes sense, if you think what they look for in the SVA test with edges having to have a radius of ??? or greater... If the wire is of a diameter that is able to meet that requirement, would it pass?

sae70 · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:15 pm Post subject:

I knew I had seen it somewhere it was a post made by the affore mentioned Dave of Bits4Vits asking the same question 'are they legal?' and it was a response by daventrysurfer saying he had spoken with a police officer who had told him that so long as they are greater than 4.5mm in diameter they are legal Smile

So now it's up to someone to prove this correct or incorrect Smile

I'll leave you with it Very Happy

RichardD · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:03 pm Post subject:

jeepmadmike · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject:

i dont see the point, the mounts and the wire need to be damp strong to be any use. Im not sure if nats idea of a bit of 3/4 blue band would be any good the first little push and it would bend and break the welds i dont think the visability would be any more effected then it is by the pillars in a pug expert van!

dieseljim · Guest

I know this thread is "are they legal or not", but why not just drive slower through overhanging branches, and carry an axe/bowsaw/machete? (i carry all 3).

and cut the branch out of the way, thus keeping the lane open for other users too? Wink

mrman · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:22 pm Post subject:

sae70 · Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:10 am Post subject:

Sounds like hard sweaty work to me all that axe, bowsaw & machete business Smile

Thats why I carry a lovely little Stihl 2 stroke chain saw with a 13" bar Exclamation

It's a bit noisey and a bit smokey but quick and burns far fewer SPAM Very Happy

It also has the advantage of not being able to harm pedestriens if I mow them down when travelling between lanes Very Happy

dieseljim · Guest

madmole · Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:00 pm Post subject:

Is it not also illegal to use a chainsaw in a public place without a certificate

dieseljim · Guest

It probably is, but you're not doing 50/60/70mph with a chainsaw with the possibility of having an accident.

If you were lopping a tree/branch on a public RoW, you could have a couple of bystanders stopping/warning any rambliars that they might get hit by a falling branch....

now, on the other hand, they could direct said rambliar under the path of a falling branch... that would be worthy of a youtube vid clip! Laughing

jeepmadmike · Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:42 pm Post subject:

I got asked today by a horsey girl i know to drive up a local lane she rides alot as its getting very grown in and she dont like getting scratched!
Its dam narrow and only a zuk fits up it with great care Shocked

madmole · Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:39 am Post subject:

I always fancied a couple of electric hedge trimmers mounted vertically on the ARB and powered from my inverter

Not only would it trim back the lane nicely but it would discourage argumentative ramblers

cieranc · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: