Best Winch

freeski-james · Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:41 am Post subject: Best Winch

In you opinion which winch is best.

And what do you think about these cheapy's on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12000lb-electric-recovery...#ebayphotohosting

Nathaniel · Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:49 am Post subject:

You get what you pay for...

I would Vote for Come-Up DV9000's

Brilliant winches that never seem to stop and have one of the best freespool actions I have come across....

. · Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:53 am Post subject:

Are you just interested in the best electric winch or the best winch? Milemarker hydraulic is the best IMO

freeski-james · Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:23 pm Post subject:

electronic, has to be 12000-12500lbs

james_hillerby · Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:41 pm Post subject:

Does it have to be that big? I just got a come-up dv9000 and i am very impressed with it. I have it mounted on the back of a truck-cab 90 linked to a
130Ah battery, 80amp alternator and albright type contactor

Used it for the first time at Drumclog in April and it pulled Richards Volvo out the goo and a full size range rover up a 30deg hill on its belly and axles in the ruts although i had another motor wedged in some ruts anchored to the front of me...

I got the DV9000, plasma rope and a plasma fairlead for £650 brand new. Well worth the money over the cheapy ones any day

Anthony · Off-Road Guru Joined: 05 Mar 2007 Odometer: 1640

Hydraulic would be far preferable to me also.

james_hillerby · Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:44 pm Post subject:

P.S you get a snatch block and battery cables with it

freeski-james · Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:03 pm Post subject:

The only reason i was thinking of going for something around 12000lbs is you wouldn't be working nearer the limit of the motor. So do you think 9000lbs area is perfectly fine then.
Looking at the 9000lbs area i came across this,opinions?

gords1001 · Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:50 pm Post subject:

What are you doing with it? If it's for pay and play, one of the cheapies will probably last, but you have to view it as a "throw away" thing, people seem to struggle getting spares.

I got a terrafirma 12000lb winch from winch solutions in ashton, it's not done much work in the 2 years or so i've had it, but it always seems to work when i needed it, only failure being the batteries in the remote control (yep, wireless controll for about £300, the price has dropped considerably now i think). They gave me the same warrenty as I'd have got on the champion 9000lb winch i wanted, but they had none in stock so offered me the terra firma winch, cant say I've ever had any reason to complain. The thing i liked was that the line speed was ssssllllllllooooowwwww. This may sound a bad thing, but it was my first winch and the slow speed allowed me to assess what was happening, before i'd winched myself or someone else into more trouble, perhaps something to think about........

It's really gonna depend on your budget, if i had the cash, I'd fit a mile marker or other hydraulic winch, after pulling 3 vehicles out the other week the motor was definately in need of leaving to cool. If you anticipate a lot of winching look at a good hydraulic set up, and if anyone says they are slow, check out the mile marker type r and competitors Shocked

Nathaniel · Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:59 pm Post subject:

The bigger the winch - the heavier it is - the heavier your truck is - the more likely you will get stuck?

See a pattern here?

Also, the smaller the winch the les it ruins your approach angle.

Buy a good winch and look after it and it will look after you.

one of the highest prioritys on my list is no load spool in speed, this is where the cheap chinese ones are a big let down.

Anthony BathMat Rushton · Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:59 pm Post subject:

at the moment..

a tabor 9k.. made by warn, but just rebadged.. which means it is completely rebuildable. every bolt is available to buy separately. and doesent carry a heft tag.. rough £350 i think...

but competition use?
depends on vehicle..
small + light sj = Warn 8274 or come up
heavy land rover = hydraulic

my 2p

Diesel Destroyer · Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:42 am Post subject:

I run twin T max 9500 winches... never had any problem with either.. brushes went recently in the front winch.. new brush set was £11.63 from Bearmach, they keep all of the spares for T max..

But if money was no object.. id have a Warn 8274.. But I got both mine for less than the price of one 8274..

It all depends on budget and intended use..

Whatever ya buy.. make sure you can get spares etc

freeski-james · Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:20 am Post subject:

Came across this
http://www.superwinch.com/EPi9_0S_9_000_lbs.html

teamidris · Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject:

Milemarker type R with crank mounted hydraulic pump, disengauging clutch and hand operated valve in the cab. And a Dyneema Bowrope (well, any such rope really).

But I kid you not, thats a hell of a set up, Cool

and one hell of a technical challenge to assemble Confused

http://teamidris.tripod.com/id7.html

No motor overheating to worry about though and throttle controlled vary speed. If I had the money there would be another on the back Very Happy

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Last time out we killed the main battery with the rear electric winch and didn't use any amps for the front one.
Add in a second battery and you're well on the way to covering the weight of hydraulic pump and tank. (unfortunately I will have both)

G. · Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:45 am Post subject:

i bought a t max 11000pound winch second hand which was actually new, had been fitted to the vehicle and never used.. ive put it on a suzuki, its a little slow, but thats because its got loads of the gearing. itl never run out of power.. ive had a come up on a suzuki, and its a very good winch. if i had paid 400odd quid for my t max new and it was that slow id be disappointed, but it does what i want it to do.. its only lanes i do.

imatthew · Guest

mr_e · Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:21 am Post subject:

For "just in case I need it" green laning, cheep as you like, as it'll rust just as quick as one costing 3 times the amount.

For more regular use, you do get what you pay for, and its worth doing lots of research to find either a quality copy or good secondhand premium brand.

For competition use, get one made like this Cool

Mark........

freeski-james · Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:11 am Post subject:

That does look good. Most of the time it will be used for pay & play, i do do green lanes but try to to trash them when they could need a winch. At work though with a friends 90 we have been using his winch on and off for about 2 hours getting stuff up from the woods. Eg. trailer with logs. But that's not winch all the time just on the same bits were it wont make it up 100m's of the hill

imatthew · Guest

D9OSV · Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject:

This is what makes a good competition winch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNO4VsJa-2o&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am_KsYcJZ8M

Speed, Power and easy to use.

However for this young mans needs can i suggest the new TDS9000 from David Bowyer.
First budget lowline winch that is waterproof and has a cone brake.
Ideal for first timers and experienced crews alike.

Lovely bit of kit and very sensibly priced.

Jim

freeski-james · Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:56 pm Post subject:

Ive tryed googling TDS9000 from David Bowyer but cant come across anything. Do you know anything more about it

expat69 · Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:13 pm Post subject:

Goodwinch:

http://www.dborc.co.uk/goodwinch/

waveydave · Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject:

I will stick to my guns and yet again on this subject say the best winch is a Husky 8 or 10

Powerfull long lasting and easy to mod.

Been using them for years now and so far i've not found a better all rounder.

winchman · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:53 pm Post subject:

Warn 8274 for its agricultural simplicity
Huskey slow but most reliable
Come up for best value.
Chinese stuff is so diverse some wont even work when you take them out of the box some are just an accident waiting to happen.
Oh and Hydraulics are the best motive power for the winches ( proper ones not ones ran from power steering pumps) its a bit more work to fit but when did you last see an electric winch on a critical application?

mudzilla · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:57 pm Post subject:

winchman · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:51 pm Post subject:

Just buy some thing with good ground clearance and light weight and it will hardly ever get stuck.
Nats LJ is a typical example, cheap light weight easy to fix and dosnt get stuck very often

Peter R. · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:13 am Post subject:

To me, hands down the best electric winches are still the G10 and G12 by David Bowyer. I've had a G10 for donkeys years, and inside it's still clean as a whistle.

Peter R.

the_undertaker · Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:02 pm Post subject:

HAs to be Hydro be the best! as for bowyer ones am sorry but when you ask a man about his product and he cant answer other than, i don't know about that yet or i have no experience of them then i be inclined to go elsewhere!
Milemarker type R, all the speed and even more reliability!! having seen a car being bump started by the winch on petal and as a major plus ZERO overun! so even safer to use

D9OSV · Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:30 am Post subject:

. · Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:37 am Post subject:

As far as electric goes I use a XP9i on the 90. I not known for preventative maintenance and the whole vehicle has been undedr water and it has never let me down.