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Improved niva snorkel
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's some very ingenious people on here, you included! Shame you got rid of the Niva, as I'm sure yoiu'd have had a go! Very Happy
Could it apply to Cruisers?
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jimb0
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1989 Lada Niva

PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

niva_feeva wrote:
With the snorkel i was given a sock looking uni filter, wich slots in up the top, would u guys recomend just using this and ditching the filter inside the stock air box? Also did anyone notice any power increase after fitting one?


On the subject of going under water, ours is a 1.7 single point model, what else needs to be water proofed before attemting to cross the swan river?


The sock that goes over the ram is just a prefilter to stop lots of dust and mud from getting down to the main filter. It will not filter the air properly.

If yours has a distributor you will need to seal the holes in the cap and also where the cap mounts to the body. You also need to make sure your spark leads are in good condition and make a good seal where they plug in. If any water gets into contact with the high voltage side of the ignition system the spark will short to earth and your engine will stall.
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niva_feeva
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The version I have is the single point injection, so no dizzy just coil packs.

Niv6: do they stop working when they are under water?
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Eddy
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

madman wrote:
I read somewhere that the uni filter is more for sound deadening than an air cleaner.
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

You got some hilarious reading matter at your disposal dude!

I've read that Lada Nivas are useless to drive on the road, and worse offroad.

I've used your "sound deadeners" on almost every vehicle I've owned along with all our farm machinery in the last twenty plus years and find them far superior to standard paper filters, as well as K&Ns and the like.

hoodoo wrote:
I've wondered, in the past, about using the 'A' pillar (windscreen) as a snorkel. Enter from under the wheelarch, in the recess behind the wheel, and an intake at the top of the screen.
Who's going to do it? I'm sure it will work, provided enough air can pass.
wonder no longer.
I used this system in my old falcon ute for several years.

IMO you'd need to use both pillars in the Niva, as they can be a little on the small side for good air flow I think. Theres also a bit of work to do to close in the A pillar, as they are built a bit funny.

On my old falc, ran some hose from the top of the A pillars, back to the B pillars, and fitted louvre type vents to the outsides of the B pillars for intake. It looked quite respectable, and worked admirably.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eddy wrote:
madman wrote:
I read somewhere that the uni filter is more for sound deadening than an air cleaner.
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

You got some hilarious reading matter at your disposal dude!


From 4x4 Connection (safari snorkel dealer):
Q. Is there any additional filter incorporated in a Safari snorkel?

A. No, there is no additional filter in a Safari snorkel. A foam component, which appears to be a small pre-cleaner, is used on some vehicle models. It is installed inside the Safari air ram (see sketch above). It is not a pre-cleaner. It is actually a noise suppression pod, used to absorb sound waves generated by the engine. The improved filtration actually results from the Safari snorkel's air intake being above the level of the heavy, wheel generated, dust. In addition, a commercial configuration of pre cleaner assembly can be added for further protection.

I can't stop laughing either! Laughing Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

madman wrote:
From 4x4 Connection (safari snorkel dealer):
Q. Is there any additional filter incorporated in a Safari snorkel?

A. No, there is no additional filter in a Safari snorkel. A foam component, which appears to be a small pre-cleaner, is used on some vehicle models. It is installed inside the Safari air ram (see sketch above). It is not a pre-cleaner. It is actually a noise suppression pod, used to absorb sound waves generated by the engine. The improved filtration actually results from the Safari snorkel's air intake being above the level of the heavy, wheel generated, dust. In addition, a commercial configuration of pre cleaner assembly can be added for further protection.

I can't stop laughing either! Laughing Laughing Laughing


err - this is absolutly correct

what you are missing is that the safari snorkel connects to the standard air filter of the vehicle for filtration, there is ALSO a foam sock inside the tube of the snorkel which does act more as a sound deadener than a filter but does catch rocks etc that bouce up and enter the snorkel intake.

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Eddy
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madman wrote:
... in a Safari snorkel. A foam component, which appears to be a small pre-cleaner, is used on some vehicle models..
Embarassed oops ... read you as bagging UniFilters in general, missed the bit about the little socky thingy ... ...



I get as narky about people having a go at UniFilters as I do at people bagging Ladas Rolling Eyes Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

niva_feeva wrote:
The version I have is the single point injection, so no dizzy just coil packs.

Niv6: do they stop working when they are under water?


they do remarkably well under water all things considered. give everything a good dose of waxoyle and they will run until the snorkel goes under:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRBGr39uJBo
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madman
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eddy, I only bag on a select number of really crappy products:
Viper alarms (or any derivative), ARMOR ALL!!! (can't stress that one enough), Norton sand paper, any tape that ain't 3M and anything Pioneer.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

simonallen wrote:
niva_feeva wrote:
The version I have is the single point injection, so no dizzy just coil packs.

Niv6: do they stop working when they are under water?


they do remarkably well under water all things considered. give everything a good dose of waxoyle and they will run until the snorkel goes under:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRBGr39uJBo


I've seen that video before, and I still laugh when i see it!!!
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