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Pinzgauer & Haflinger vs Steyr-Daimler-Puch

 
 
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:25 pm    Post subject: Pinzgauer & Haflinger vs Steyr-Daimler-Puch Reply with quote

is Pinzgauer & Haflinger the correct name for this bit of the forum, as it brakes with the rest by not using the manufacture name? Rolling Eyes

Pinzgauer & Haflinger are product names of vehicles made by the legendry Steyr-Daimler-Puch AG

Steyr = Österreichische Waffenfabrik

Daimler = Daimler Motorengesellschaft = Gottlieb Daimler = Mercedes-Benz

Puch = Puch-Werke Graz

collectively = Steyr-Daimler-Puch AG

Steyr-Daimler-Puch AG was the initial designer and manufacturer of the Haflinger produced from 1959 to 1974, also the Pinzgauer produced from 1971 to 2000 and the Puch G produced from 1979 which is also known as Mercedes G-Wagon/G-Class.

now:
Steyr Tractor = Case Corporation, Puch motorcycle = Piaggio, Steyr Mannlicher & Steyr automobile + Magna = Magna Steyr, Steyr Motorentechnik GmbH = Steyr Motors GmbH, Daimler = Mercedes-Benz

in 1998 the other reminance (military vehicles) changed name from Steyr-Daimler-Puch.AG to Steyr-Daimler-Puch Spezialfahrzeug GmbH then in 2003 Steyr-Daimler Puch Spezialfahrzeug GmbH became 100% owned by "General Dynamics European Land Systems" (MOWAG GmbH (Switzerland) and Santa Bárbara Sistemas (Spain)) thus owned by General Dynamics Corporation America.

Thus in relation to this forum the correct name should be Steyr-Daimler-Puch with reference to production dates of the named vehicles and all the other like the 4x4, 6x6, 8x8 trucks & tractors or AFV like the Pandur or tracked units like the ULAN / ASCOD (ASCOD = Austrian Spanish Cooperation Development by Steyr-Daimler-Puch AG & Santa Bárbara Sistemas then later as Steyr-Daimler-Puch Spezialfahrzeug GmbH & Santa Bárbara Sistemas AKA General Dynamics European Land Systems)

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have a good point .If you look at the amount of vehicles SDP have made which are all wheel drive and often carry their badge.Eg

Vw T3 Syncro , VW SPAM Country , Fiat Panda 4x4 ,and all Mercedes G-wagon's in Austria and Switzerland carry the PUCH badge and not the Mercedes Badge and I'm sure there's a good few more vehicles not to mention what you listed..

Johan Puch was a engineer from Slovenia which was then part of the Austrian/Hungary empire and the factory is Graz in named after him..


This is a good topic

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the desighner of the pinsgauer and haflinger wa also responable for the TATRA trucks.

http://www.tatra.cz/en/spodek_en.asp

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hans Ledwinka ( Hope i spelt it right ) is the chap , he or his father also had alot to do with development of the aircooled engine together with Porsche . I have met Austrian's who believe that Ledwinka was more responsible for the aircooled motor than Porsche !!! Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gregor-Pinzgauer wrote:
I'm sure there's a good few more vehicles not to mention what you listed..


the european fiat 500 is labelled up as Puch

Gregor-Pinzgauer wrote:
This is a good topic


Agreed! ive got a puch moped, and its nice to know some company history, and I do like history lessons like this.
and now the most important question,


how do you pronounce puch??



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PUCH is pronounced- "Poo-k"
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Except that Steyr stopped production some time ago... pre GD buy out Pinzgauer is now owned by BAe Systems and production has just been moved from the UK to South Africa
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