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Hoodoo lift kit etc.

 
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:18 pm    Post subject: Hoodoo lift kit etc. Reply with quote

Details of the lift kit, the alternator re-location bracket, and a photo guide of the lift installation, can be found at www.channel19.demon.co.uk
All the above can be downloaded for reference.
I am available if there are any questions.

Any other sites with them listed?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It should be familiar, it's yours! Excellent series of photos you and the old man(!) provided, thanks. Glad to hear you're happy with it!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt can get them. They're the ones on his and my cars. I'll see what I can do.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All,

Since I'm new to the forum I need to say the following:

This is a great forum and I've really enjoyed learning from it.

Now I have a question:

I'm getting ready to install a Hoodoo lift but am a little uncertain as to how much it will raise. In a few places a lift of ~50mm is quoted which seems strange since it only uses 25mm spacers and wedges. I can see how it might give a 50mm on the front because the spacer is halfway down a lever. How you get a 50mm lift at the back is a mystery to me.

If someone could explain this to me or point me to where it has already been discussed, that'd be great.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rear lift also requires dampers an extra 50mm longer. As most people use ProComp ES9000's, the extra "spring" in these assists the springs and gives the additional 25mm lift over the spacers alone.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I agree the ES9000 shocks give a bit of lift in their own right, the spacers do give 50mm on their own. I don't understand how this happens, but it does, and I've just accepted it!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the front springs were located under front bumper I would agree that it was a mystery... But they are actually about 700 mm behind the bumper, meaning that some weight (radiator, half of the engine and some other stuff) are in front of the lift. So, by lifting 50 mm at this point you actually also reduce the weight on the rear suspension.

You don't agree? Let's say that the front springs were placed at the weight center of the car (somewhere under the drivers seat, I would guess) - a 50 mm lift at that point would give 50 mm at both ends, right?!

This is one possible explanation - anyone have a better theory?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a lift in the front, what are the advantages/disadvantages of the hoodoo lift over the ball joint spacer method?

Stu

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys, I think I have a slightly better idea about what's happening now.

Sadly I can't get hold of a set of ProComp ES9000 for free so I was hoping to use a set of Nissan Patrol shock absorbers that have nominal measurements of 385-632mm. If there is something terrible about this plan then let me know.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stu,
Big disadvantage of the ball joint (the top and bottom joints on the hub) spacer method is that it doesn't give any lift. Spacing the upper one gives no lift, and you can't space the lower one because the hub is in the way. Afraid it's either the wedges I use, or stronger springs.
Ash,
The ES9000 shocks we use have a maximum extended length of 22". What's that in mm? By the way, keep the front ones standard.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to the convert.exe program I have, 22 inches = 558.8 mm...

Nissan Patrol shocks seem way too long for the Niva's front, but maybe ones for a Nissan Terrano may fit?

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