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bird_2112 Just got MTs
Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Odometer: 313 Location: Swansea
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:35 pm Post subject: C&E Registration
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I know you don't have to pay tax now on the first 2500ltrs so keeping a talley of oil used is a good idea but do you have to register with customs and excise prior to using veg oil.
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Ray_Jnr Banned!
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Odometer: 4671 Location: The Northeast
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:26 pm Post subject:
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in a simple answer. "no"
the long one "No, i used to be registered but i used so little they jus sent me a letter saying i was no longer registered and that i didnt need to be"
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Biodiesel-Bev Off-Road Guru
Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Odometer: 1080 Location: Huddersfield
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:44 pm Post subject:
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Correct, you do not need to register with HMRC (No longer called customs and excise).
You would need to register if you believe that you are likely to use more that 2500 litres in that year.
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mike. Mud Obsessed
Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Odometer: 4010 Location: wirral
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:45 pm Post subject:
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any idea if there is any different rules to business's? i run 3 vans and 2 cars. could i just start putting cooking oil through them without informing anyone?
thanks,
mike.
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Nathaniel Difflock Royalty
Joined: 13 May 2003 Odometer: 17901 Location: North, North Yorkshire
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject:
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mike_h wrote: | any idea if there is any different rules to business's? i run 3 vans and 2 cars. could i just start putting cooking oil through them without informing anyone?
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mike. |
As long as you don't go over 2500 litres a year then you have no problem.
Are the engines in the vehicles suitable for veg?
if you're running common rail stuff then it won't cope with veg.
Have you considered making BIO diesel?
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mike. Mud Obsessed
Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Odometer: 4010 Location: wirral
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:08 pm Post subject:
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thanks nat.
i was thinking of just buying in bio... or diluting tinned cooking oil... whats the law on storing the stuff? we have a 1 ton transit tank with red in atm but apparently you need a bund now and we dont have the space.
there's 2 mk 2 transits, one brand new transit, one 2.8 trooper but my car is the 1.9 wv tdi pd engine which might complain.
either way, we use more than 2.5tons of fuel a year so it'll be getting used alongside the forecourt stuff.
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Nathaniel Difflock Royalty
Joined: 13 May 2003 Odometer: 17901 Location: North, North Yorkshire
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:33 pm Post subject:
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I'm not sure on the law of storing veg.. I don't think there is one..
Possibly Bunded tanks...
No limit on storing diesel.
The old transits with the "Banana" Engine will run on it just fine but will be a real pig to start from cold.
The new transit and the VW PD engine - Don't even bother with veg, you WILL kill them, Properly made Bio only.
Trooper should be fine.
I would setup for making Bio.
a steady supply of Waste veg from the local burger fry and you could make 2500l of Bio without paying duty, coming to 15ppl MAX you're gonna make quite a saving,
Failing that run your whole fuel needs on BIO and just declare the duty...
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mike. Mud Obsessed
Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Odometer: 4010 Location: wirral
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:36 pm Post subject:
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thanks nat, it all seems like alot of effort to make the stuff considering work is quite busy anyway but if we can save 30ppl by buying it in i'll be happy.
trying to find somewhere that sells it now, no-one here seems too interested.
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XrHiNo Guest
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:16 pm Post subject:
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As I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong) the limit on usage is, as mentioned above 2500ltrs, this is the total fuel usage, not the percentage of veg oil. Mixing with diesel constitutes producing biofuel.
So....... if you mix 50/50 your total usage is double.
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mike. Mud Obsessed
Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Odometer: 4010 Location: wirral
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject:
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thanks, may be that 2 or 3 vehicles run bio then... or just use it till it runs out.
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