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choothemoo
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:36 pm    Post subject: lpg transfer pumps Reply with quote

has any one ever used one of the transfer pumps available on ebay to empty orange gas canisters into off road vehicles
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ROCKATANSKY
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't personally, but I know a mechanic who's in to his American and jeep stuff therefore has his own small LPG storage tank, but before he used an electric pump to get the gas from calor bottles to his tank (when used off road ofcourse) and offered it to me for sale and said that it works fine..........I declined but then thought about it and have started looking around for pumps especially on e-bay, for ease it'll have to be electric but a hand pump still works, and I worked it out to be the equivalent of a bout 26 ppl.....depending on what outlet you get the bottle from.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use one of these pumps on a regular basis (only to fill my off road vehicle obviously!!! ahem!!) They are superb pieces of kit and save me an absolute fortune!
What is it you wanted to know about them?

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choothemoo
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have enquired about buying lpg canisters but they all seem to be £50 plus for approx 90 litre making it dearer than forecourt, also I've been advised not to run pump dry ie letting canister empty out but have a digital gauge on car so can't tell how much i've put in without starting engine so how have you set yours up twin bottles with gauges fitted etc

any advice much appreciated

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blimey - where are you buying your gas?? are you getting it shipped from Australia lol!!
Through various sources i can buy a 47kg propane bottle at about £20 and i'm sure with a bit of research you could find a local supplier for around the £25 mark - there is 94 litres in a 47kg bottle so at this price it doesn't take a lot of working out - i can fill my 80 litre tank (to 64 litres due to the 80% fill ratio) for 13.70ish and get 195 miles - probably more if i were to sort the system properly (but i work on the 'dont fix what aint broke' theory and, currently, it works!!!)
As for filling, i pump the liquid in till you start to get big bubbles through the clear fill hose that i put in between the bottle and the pump (instead of the orange pipe) and then turn the pump off - you would never run the pump too dry unless you really weren't watching!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi fellas only just stumbled across your site and LPG transfer topic i always seem the last to find out a friend of mine asked me today was i still running my pagero diesel on cooking oil i said not any more I'm back on petrol but with a LPG conversion and he said your only paying about 12p a litre then i said how do you make that out i am happy paying 46 a litre and then he told me you can buy an anti static transfer pump and decant from propane gas bottle is this true or just talk look forward to any answers mike aldcroft
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Regards to filling an on road vehicle with a fuel that has no road Duty on it I would be careful what you are saying.
Doing this without paying the road Duty is illegal.

This is a Public forum and bascally you are admitting Tax Evasion - if HMR&C Catch you you'll have to give them LOTS of money....

Just a word of warning that your words can be read by the whole world....

Nathaniel Ham

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In reply to bigmike - yes this is true (read my last post!!)
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do apologize but i did not think it was illegal to think about doing something rather than actually doing and i did not realize you could be guilty for thinking something that you have not actually done appreciate you're comments but i still have not got an answer to my original question am i right in thinking it is all right to put LPG from propane canisters but not road legal vehicles many thanks mike
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigmike21 wrote:
do apologize but i did not think it was illegal to think about doing something rather than actually doing and i did not realize you could be guilty for thinking something that you have not actually done


Thinking about it is is legal but there are people here saying they do it. Nat is not telling you off or saying don;t do it but just be aware that using any fuel on road without paying duty and VAT is illegal. Like you didn't know anyway.

Information is power!

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers mate no offence meant keep up the good work
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choothemoo
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i seem only able to find 47's for £50 plus making it dearer than forecourt prices
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a deposit on the bottle for "new customers"
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

once you have a bottle to return i was quoted between 39 and 46 pounds for a large 46k bottle so really i cannot see to much saving on pump prices where i pay 43p a lt
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

them people turn up outside your house with a road fuel testing station...a big white transit van...many months after yer get reported...so be very cearfull what you all say..and who can see you filling up ..cost me £1500 fine..on the spot..
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peterpopeye wrote:
them people turn up outside your house with a road fuel testing station...a big white transit van...many months after yer get reported...so be very cearfull what you all say..and who can see you filling up ..cost me £1500 fine..on the spot..


was you caught using propane out of a canister to fill a road car, how did they know could they check the gas

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no i was using pink..but what i am trying to say to you all is that they do turn up..
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